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HS0ZIE

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Legal HF/VHF Radios in Thailand
« on: August 01, 2008, 08:40:18 AM »
HF RIG's
       Kenwood
  • TS-50
  • TS-50S
  • TS-120B
  • TS-120S
  • TS-440S
  • TS-450S
  • TS-520
  • TS-570D
  • TS-820S
  • TS-830S
  • TS-850S
  • TS-870S
  • TS-870SAT
  • TS-920S (see note)
  • TS-930S
  • TS-940S
  • TS-940SAT
  • TS-950SDX
       Icom
  • IC-701
  • IC-710 - JA Version
  • IC-718
  • IC-720
  • IC-720A
  • IC-725
  • IC-730
  • IC-735
  • IC-737
  • IC-738
  • IC-751A
  • IC-775DSP
  • IC-781
  • IC-7300   (without 50MHz) since May/2016
       Yaesu
  • FT-101
  • FT-200
  • FT-290RII (Version B)
  • FT-747GX
  • FT-757GXII
  • FT767 incl. only 144-146 MHz module
  • FT840
  • FT890
  • FT900
  • FT920 (see note)
  • FT-1000
  • FT-1000MP
  • FT-1000MP MK-V
       Collins
  • 32S-1
  • 32S-3
  • 75S-1
  • 75S-3B
  • KWM-2A
  • KWM380
       Drake
  • R4-C
  • T4X-C
       Misc
  • Elekraft K2 (10W / 100W)
  • Heathkit HW-101
  • HR-20
  • HR-40
  • MFJ-9015
  • MFJ-9040
  • MFJ-9420
  • Trio R599
  • Trio T599

VHF RIG's

       Kenwood
  • ...
       Icom
  • IC-275
  • IC-2000
  • IC-2100
  • IC-2200-T
  • IC-2300-T - SOON
       Yaesu
  • VX-150
  • FM 9012
  • ...
       Alinco
  • DR - 135
  • ...
       Misc
  • Spender

7th update added ICOM 7300 HF rig's 03.06.2016 by HS0ZFZ
6th update added VHF rig's 23.12.2012 by HS0ZFZ
5th update added VHF rig's 03.12.2012 by HS0ZFZ
4th update and changes 07.09.2010 by HS0ZFZ
3rd Update 25.08.2010 by HS0ZFZ
2nd Update 04.03.2009 by HS0ZFZ
Update 14.Oct 2008 by HS0ZFZ


Note:                     
I can find no data to support there ever being a TS920, either internationally or JA domestically.       
There is an FT920 and I know of at least one in Thailand so most likely this is confusion       
from the original list.                     
                     
The FT290 and FT767 are the only VHF radios shown. The FT767 was approved with only the 144-146 MHz module.
Source: HS0ZED, July 1, 2008



"" Original Post""" by HS0ZIE
Kenwood   Icom    Yaesu                       Collins     Drake     Misc                     
TS-120B    IC-710    FT-1000                        KWM-2A    R4-C    Heathkit HW-101       
TS-120S IC-718    FT-290RII (Version B)    32S-1    T4X-C    Elekraft K2 - 10W Version     
TS-440S IC-720A    FT-747GX                    75S-1       MFJ-9015       
TS-450S    IC-725    FT-757GXII                  32S-3       MFJ-9020       
TS-50    IC-730    FT767                        75S-3B       MFJ-9040       
TS-50S    IC-735    FT840                        KWM380       HR-20       
TS-570D    IC-737    FT890                                    HR-40       
TS-820S    IC-738    FT900                                    Trio R599       
TS-830S    IC-751A    FT-101                                     Trio T599       
TS-850S IC-775DSP FT-1000MP               
TS-870S    IC-781    FT-1000MP MkV               
TS-870                FT-200               
TS-920S (see note)                     
TS-930S       FT920 (see note)               
TS-940S                     
TS-940SAT                     
TS-950SDX                     
                     
Note.                     
I can find no data to support there ever being a TS920, either internationally or JA domestically.       
There is an FT920 and I know of at least one in Thailand so most likely this is confusion       
from the original list.                     
                     
The FT290 and FT767 are the only VHF radios shown. The FT767 was approved with only the 144-146Hz module.
Source: HS0ZED, July 1, 2008   




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« Last Edit: June 03, 2016, 02:47:34 PM by HS0ZFZ »

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Re: NTC NEWS Legal HF Radios in Thailand
« Reply #1 on: August 02, 2008, 01:27:32 PM »
I got new Info today about importing a Transceiver to Thailand.

It seems that NTC has made it easier to import and no charge  for the License sticker if the radio is on the list of legal Radios in Thailand.

Thats excludes any rig  that has 6m 50Mhz is forbidden in Thailand

When you obtain the import license for your radio which you have to do before bringing the radio to Thailand, you will also get the licens sticker and no need to bring it to NTC for inspection anymore.

But you still have to declare it in customs and pay tax plus vat 7 % so it can still be expensive, Type 10 year old radio in mint condition is status brand new.
 peng mak mak  :'( >:(

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Re: Legal HF Radios in Thailand
« Reply #2 on: August 02, 2008, 01:58:40 PM »
Thanks for the update !   Question, how do I get permission to bring in the radio from the NTC and get the sticker for the radio ?  Thanks again.

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Re: Legal HF Radios in Thailand
« Reply #3 on: August 02, 2008, 02:42:32 PM »
Thanks for the update !   Question, how do I get permission to bring in the radio from the NTC and get the sticker for the radio ?  Thanks again.
You apply at the NTC for a Import license  what  Brand Name, serial number of the radio you want to bring  to Thailand, when approved you have the paperwork with you the next time you enter the country and the license sticker that you also get with the papers glued to the radio and take it to customs on arrival or if sent by mail you go to customs first and pay your duty's and then you can collect your package.
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« Last Edit: August 02, 2008, 03:00:55 PM by HS0ZIE »

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Re: Legal HF Radios in Thailand
« Reply #4 on: August 03, 2008, 01:25:07 PM »
So the 25,000 Baht fee stated in the earlier and now deleted post is not being charged by NTC then?

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Re: Legal HF Radios in Thailand
« Reply #5 on: August 03, 2008, 04:45:30 PM »
So the 25,000 Baht fee stated in the earlier and now deleted post is not being charged by NTC then?
Correct     :)

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Re: Legal HF Radios in Thailand - market values mean nothing?!
« Reply #6 on: August 04, 2008, 07:22:01 AM »
Thanks, Kurt. But if you can prove you paid say $ 300 or THB 10,000 for an old transceiver, how can Customs charge you its new price? Yesterday I got a 2006 QST at the RAST meeting and noticed the much higher 2006 transceiver prices.

Do they use a tax number for transceivers? Importing medium format camera gear to Germany means finding the correct tax code. Computer gear works well as then there will only be the 19% vat and 0% duty.

Q: Are those draconian penalties like 5 years in jail for bringing in a normal 50 Watts 2 m FM transceiver still in place? Personally, I love QRP but there are not too many mobile units with 10 Watts around. 73 de Chris HS0ZFE (KF6VCI)
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Re: Legal HF Radios in Thailand - market values mean nothing?!
« Reply #7 on: August 04, 2008, 07:54:46 AM »
Thanks, Kurt. But if you can prove you paid say $ 300 or THB 10,000 for an old transceiver, how can Customs charge you its new price? Yesterday I got a 2006 QST at the RAST meeting and noticed the much higher 2006 transceiver prices.

Do they use a tax number for transceivers? Importing medium format camera gear to Germany means finding the correct tax code. Computer gear works well as then there will only be the 19% vat and 0% duty.

Q: Are those draconian penalties like 5 years in jail for bringing in a normal 50 Watts 2 m FM transceiver still in place? Personally, I love QRP but there are not too many mobile units with 10 Watts around. 73 de Chris HS0ZFE (KF6VCI)
I cant really answer that but as my source told me they have a list of the TRX that are licensed by NTC and approx prices and then its up to the custom officer to put the value on your radio. But as we know Thailand has  Very high taxes on import gods , except what you cant eat For instance " a imported car can be all the way up to 700 % import Tax "  :'(

There is no need to bring a 2m radio to Thailand they are very cheep and all of them have about 50 to 70 watt output mobile rigs. But the law says 10w so its up to you to use the low power output  ;D
« Last Edit: August 04, 2008, 07:59:32 AM by HS0ZIE »

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Re: Legal HF Radios in Thailand
« Reply #8 on: August 07, 2008, 12:05:05 AM »
Don't forget that import license have validity of 6 months of issue date.
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Re: Legal HF Radios in Thailand
« Reply #9 on: August 19, 2008, 08:35:59 AM »
Hi,

That's a good point about the validity so best not to apply for the import licence until you are ready to bring the rig in.

As you can see from the list only the Elecraft K2 and IC-718 are current radios so for anything else you are going to be looking at secondhammed (sic) and in many cases quite a bit past their best. The TS-940S was/is a great radio but unless you are buying a known excellent one you could be buying a bag of worms, same goes for a lot of the other stuff on the list.

The big problem going forward is that essentially no new radios are being made without either 50MHz or 5MHz capability. I think (but hope to be proved wrong) that 50MHz access or even the ability to legally bring in radios with it on is out there in never never land. 5MHz is another matter as it is under 30MHz but there is no mandated allocation in the Thai band plan and I don't believe import of such a radio has ever been attempted previously. If it were possible to import rigs with 60m on then the Ten-Tec Orions would be about the only radios you could add, I think.

For anything not on the list you are still looking at meeting the NTC requirement of 25,000 Baht and I think a minimum of two radios for comparative testing.

73
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p.s. I just noticed that TS-520 is not on the list but I think it is an approved radio though I'm not sure which 'version', there were at least three!

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Re: Legal HF Radios in Thailand
« Reply #10 on: August 19, 2008, 08:59:44 AM »
For anything not on the list you are still looking at meeting the NTC requirement of 25,000 Baht and I think a minimum of two radios for comparative testing.
Hmmm this would appear to contradict post #6 above. Where are you guys getting this info? Perhaps someone can post an English translation of all the NTC regs regarding amateur radio.

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Re: Legal HF Radios in Thailand
« Reply #11 on: August 19, 2008, 11:06:17 AM »
Yes and No.

For any radio whose model number appears on the list you should not need to physically have it inspected and tested by NTC. By extension you would pay the paper processing and sticker fee only.

For a 'NEW' radio whose model number is NOT on the list you would be liable for the first time testing and registration which requires two radios and 25,000 Baht.

No contradiction but two different conditions apply depending on the model of the radio.

The two radios and 25,000 baht thing is an NTC standard that applies to all radio products, I have some involvement in doing NTC approvals in a professional capacity, and whilst ham equipment was previously treated differently it is now lumped in with all other radio products.

There are a couple of glimmers in all this gloom however. On the commercial side I have been told that provided a product has been tested to certain other recognised standards which Thailand recognises and is trying to align itself with then it is likely that subject to submission of the relevant approval certificate that this will be accepted without the need to test and pay the fee here. US FCC approval does not qualify but IEC 60489-2, EN  300 676 or AZ/NZS 4583 testing and certification would be acceptable.

Unfortunately I don't think even if a radio had such certification that it would change the import licence requirements of not covering other than the permitted spectrum.


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Re: Legal HF Radios in Thailand
« Reply #12 on: September 01, 2008, 12:54:38 AM »
25,000 Baht is type approval fee for the new radio which never been attempted to import before.

now is gone?
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Re: Legal HF Radios in Thailand
« Reply #13 on: September 05, 2008, 01:35:40 PM »
An interesting post but I'm not sure if I understand exactly what you are saying.

Are you asking a question about if the fee of 25000 for import of previously untested radio model has been scrapped or are you suggesting that is the case?

If NTC has changed its policy for amateur radio products this is very welcome, and indeed very sensible for all.

I have not heard this from any other source but it still may be true.

I will check my sources and if I hear anything exciting I will report here.

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Re: Legal HF Radios in Thailand
« Reply #14 on: September 05, 2008, 08:04:56 PM »
Hi Martin


Thats what I did say in message 2 in this colum, No need to pay 25000 any more if the radio is approved before.
But still  custom and Tax that can be also a expensive when bring it in to the country